Jude 1:14 Display Chapter and Footnotes   14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these, saying, "Behold, the Lord has come in tens thousands of his saints,4 |
4 Behold the Lord has come in tens thousands of his saints. All the Bibles in the world today have mistranslated this verse to read, the Lord comes "with" tens thousands of his saints instead of the Lord comes "in" tens thousands of his saints; this same mistake has been made in all the English bibles, (click to see). George Fox has a list of translation errors that he knew were wrong, including this one, and then he checked the original Greek to support his statement. You too can see that the translators had a choice between "with" and "in." The translators were all unregenerated men of the false church, and so had no idea what the Lord's coming (or appearing, or arising, or come into) even was. It never occurred to them that the Lord had appeared "in" individuals who had been purified by his grace on the inward cross of self-denial, and so they naturally translated it as "with." You can see the options of the word "with [1722] " in the full verse by hovering your mouse over the underlined number "1722," or by clicking here for the detail of 1722. You can also see the Note 3, which states the actual Greek is "has come," a proleptic arorist tense.
Tens thousands is at least 20,000, (but less than hundreds of thousands, even less than 200,000), and is in agreement with the first fruits to God, the 144,000 thousand who follow the lamb, (were obedient to), wherever He goes, which verse in Revelation 14:4, speaks only of undefiled "men," but according to the Word of the Lord within it is: "male or female who have overcome their desire for sex," and "sexual desires can be overcome." If that seems strange to you, click on this link for other similar scriptures.
The prophecy that Jude cites in this verse apparently originates from The Book of Enoch, which Wikipedia summarizes below:
The Book of Enoch is an ancient Jewish religious work, traditionally ascribed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian group.
The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) are estimated to date from about 300 BC, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably was composed at the end of the 1st century BC.
Since Enoch died around 3000 BC, the creation dates above, (which are thousands of years later), rule out Enoch actually writing the text; though the unknown authors could have accurately quoted a statement from Enoch based on some other lost writing. There are many other impossibilities in this book, which are too many to list. Therefore, despite Jude quoting a prophecy of Enoch, I dismiss this supposed Book of Enoch as 99% fiction because it claims the reference to "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives of any of them that they chose" were angels that married human women, who then gave birth to giants; there are several problems with that statement:
- Scripture states that angels do not marry; (and despite it being very unlikely that anyone might think that the "sons of God" could be fallen angels or demons that supposedly married human women to produce the giants, the Word of the Lord within stated: "demons do not have sex with humans." His statement further supports the dismissal of The Book of Enoch as pure fiction.)
- George Fox states the human sons of God, (which are not angels), at that time were not marrying within the faith, but were marrying outside the faith, and that is the reason God destroyed the earth. From George Fox's Letter# 264:
Marriage is a figure of Christ and his church, as the apostle instanced in Ephesians. And therefore they were not to be unequally yoked, believers with unbelievers. The law of God did forbid it; they were not to give their sons and daughters to the heathen, or marry with them, for it grieved the Lord in the old world, and brought destruction upon those bad marriages. When the sons of God saw the daughters of men were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose, who corrupted the earth, and filled it with violence. But such as mingled with the heathen and unbelievers, and followed strange flesh, they went from the spirit, they lost the sonship; through such the earth was corrupted and filled with violence; and such could not know God's joining, who went from the spirit, and from the law and gospel; and such are mingled among heathens and unbelievers, and follow strange flesh, and corrupt their own, who go from the spirit, by which they have been sanctified and led into the sonship.
And such as marry with unbelievers and heathen, go contrary to the law of God, and grieve him and their righteous parents.
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